Welded steel pipes-calculation of local dihedral angles

spreadsheet for calculation of local dihedral angles according to AWS D1.1 Annex P and to ASCE pipelines 2008 and 2012dihedral angles.xlsx (1.8 MB)

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Thanks, I don’t know if I’ll use it, but, I’m a packrat and I will check how it’s written. I don’t mean to belittle the posting, but it is an interesting spreadsheet… again, thanks. I never thought about pipes having dihedral angles, only flat surfaces…

Welcome to the group.

Dik

@pisani49

Not quite related to the subject. I’m looking for a formula to calculate the perimeter of the elliptical shape produced when a circular cylinder intersects a plane on an angle. An example would be a round HSS section intersecting a flat plate or column web or flange. I want to calculate the weld area.

You seem to have a lot of information; can you provide such a formula?

Thanks,

Dik

@dik Sounds like it could be solved with analytical geometry and calculus. Some handbooks and references may have solutions already documented. Chords of a circle and such. I’ll look around Monday at the office.

Thanks… it would be appreciated… I was thinking that there would be a nice simple formula, but not so… If there is part of a welding procedure attached, it would be welcomed too…

Dik

Can you rough sketch exactly what you need? I’d appreciate it.

The weld distance around the perimeter of the ‘elliptical’ outline.

Dik

http://mathforum.org/dr.math/faq/formulas/faq.ellipse.circumference.html

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If I well understand : Hobert Welding Manual page 18 of the PDF file
https://mega.nz/#!NU1QHRBL!RTdKKpL1QK6HAQCDh6FAKC8bDpJnhkWqe_-7MG23hyQ
PS : no copyright. See https://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=371411
PS2 : of course it is approx formula

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@Latexman Thanks… I’ll take a look at it. On first glance, it is a solution to my problem. Thanks very much.

Dik

@pisani49 The book is very good and has a lot of useful information in it, on first glance. Will look at in during the next week. It, too, has a solution to my problem. I’ll set up an SMath program and post it later this upcoming week.

Thanks very much… I suspected you may have a solution from the type of posts you have been making.

Dik

visual approximation done by Hobert

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Again thanks…

Dik

I made a comparative table of formulas posted by Latexman and Hobert : lengths calculated by Hobert are always less than others (the table shows the difference in %). Attached the xls file too.


Hobert ellisse approx.xls (13.5 KB)

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Thanks… careful, your engineering skills are showing… again, thanks.

Dik